BDB Podcast Ep:17 “Hindsights and Insights with Speaking In Tech”

BDB Podcast 17 – Hindsights and Insights with Speaking in Tech

Attendees – Cory Minton, Kyle Prins, Rob Hout, Melissa Gurney, Pete Smallbone, Josh Atwell

 

In this special episode of the Big Data Beard podcast, the popular Speaking in Tech team join Cory, Kyle & Rob to kick off the year by giving their 2018 technology predictions.  Nothing is off limits as the team discusses what 2018 has in store for AI, Machine Learning, Cloud, Containers and more.

 

Strata Data Events
Stanford Machine Learning Course
Data Robot
Splunk Machine Learning
Alan Gates Podcast Episode
5 Love Languages
Docker
Kubernetes
Chris Short Blog
Red Hat
VMware
Blue Data
The Subtle Art of not Giving a F***
Artimis
How to Win: Lessons from the Premiere League
Speaking in Tech
Speaking in Tech Twitter

 

 

 

 

Pete:
[38:09] Hi
Melissa:
[38:10] Peter small bone he is he’s our UK contingent.
Josh:
[38:15] This is like a proper bar people just kind of show up.
Melissa:
[38:18] We just going to stagger in and out now I’m going to go grab a drink real quick but.
Pete:
[38:25] Sorry I’m late I was there was a podcast.
So I just I was actually in bed and I was just about to go to bed and I’ll stop and get some paint.
Josh:
[38:50] So Peter is this basically then like a podcast nightcap for you.
Pete:
[38:55] Yes I like it’s like you’re speaking in Tech nights.
Josh:
[39:01] Or is this like the the late-night section on HBO Go.
Cory:
[39:07] Easy the family program.
Pete:
[39:09] Image of an American is in but I know what that means.
Josh:
[39:14] How is HBO Go and americanism.
Pete:
[39:16] Little HBO series.
Josh:
[39:18] So there you go.
Pete:
[39:19] What’s HBO Go.
Josh:
[39:21] It’s just the app.
Pete:
[39:24] Seitan.
Cory:
[39:26] Oh that’s from now.
Pete:
[39:27] We have Scott Atlantic idea that’s what.
Josh:
[39:32] I guess it’s about to be Disney Atlantic.
Pete:
[39:35] I possibly I see my email of your right so what are we talking about anyway.
Cory:
[39:44] Yeah we’re just starting off of what’s going on in 2018 for everybody we could figure it out that you know Josh is going to need to get on my level when it comes to Delta if you wants to get an upgrade.
Josh:
[39:56] And that and that I really just don’t want to travel as much because I want to stay home play video games and drink whiskey so.
Pete:
[40:03] An admirable tarantulas.
Cory:
[40:06] Yes indeed.
So we’ve said that the big get a beard boys and girls have our big 2018 thing is where we got picked up as a partner for O’Reilly media and so we’re going to be having a presence at all the strata data and the.
AI artificial intelligence conferences they do and the open source conferences this year so pretty excited to go hang out and talk with more people at those conferences should be pretty interesting.
Pete:
[40:32] Why you got your license.
Cory:
[40:34] And they got they got a couple of Min London so maybe maybe we’ll cross paths in person and do this thing live sometime.
Pete:
[40:42] Yeah that the Brilliance when is when is the London once going to get your plugs in.
Cory:
[40:47] For sure hang on let’s see the London ones.
I can’t hang on the Terrible’s London the first one is the I think it’s the AI conference in London is it not to work.
Kyle:
[41:04] Either said the one at the end of.
Cory:
[41:06] Oh yeah that’s right and so strata is May 28th second or some like that I think it’s that that week.
Kyle:
[41:14] Yeah.
Cory:
[41:15] And they’ve got the AI Conference in October.
Josh:
[41:20] So is 2018 going to be the year of AI.
Cory:
[41:24] Man I thought I was going to be that you’re a vdi.
Josh:
[41:27] Alright that’s that’s kind of what I’m leading to like I just feel like every year is going to be like the year of a I just like every Years A year of EDI and probably for similar reasons.
Cory:
[41:37] Yeah yeah we had this conversation a handful times,
you know I think the my favorite thing I’ve heard somebody say about a I like most realistic was this dude and ruining,
I know they did the guy that does all those Coursera machine learning classes because Stanford prophecy did he was a co-founder of Coursera anyways the dude said mid last year is like you know.
That when asked about you know what is true thinking I should be thinking about a guy in the near-term he’s like really in the near-term is probably more like automation on steroids and less like Skynet.
Josh:
[42:13] Well you know I look at it I was having a conversation with a friend of mine he’s a doctor in physics and so he’s and he’s also a developer programmer in so he he’s actually getting into a i m machine learning techniques is it with some of the work that he’s doing and I told him I said you know when it comes to the machine learning and AI,
I’m I’m sitting back and like,
I know we’re making progress but I’m I’m pretty confident that we are still a long way off from some real meaningful things and I know this because I just started doing like home automation,
new smart home stuff with lights and cameras and all this and.
Things like the Alexa or you still have to be very very specific about the input that you provide to a like that like she doesn’t do context.
Super well and it’s that.
Ability to learn like people speech patterns in their context and being able to understand their intent based on that context that I think.
Him from seeing at the consumer level of course,
has a lot to go with but it wasn’t my account my argument with him on that was that a i a machine-learning you’re only going to be as good as the input you can give those environments like Watson’s great.
Watson can only do based on what data and information it has and all of these contradanza contracts are the exact same way from for my Layman’s perspective.
Cory:
[43:37] Yeah I was actually a group of us so far for work within double get a practice service,
Kyle myself and another guy Brett we actually went to a class with this company called datarobot which is a machine learning automation platform but it was interesting because,
what’s the weather there to land the the point of like machine learning is only as good as the day to you give it it was crazy because.
This tool brat like they brag about the Great Value probably there too looks like a you could apply hundreds of different machine learning algorithms with a click-of-a button,
we use machine learning to make the machine learning algorithms compete with each other so that you can build predicted models faster.
But the crate but the crazy thing that we didn’t even go into was like the fact that in order to get started with it.
You had to have a perfectly formatted table.
Melissa:
[44:30] That’s unrealistic right there.
Cory:
[44:33] It was wild yeah it was it was like what I thought I thought this was like a big daddy here bro and it literally you have to have this.
Talk about data wrangling any of that stuff there like all yeah you just use trifactive it’s done it’s like it was one of those where I agree with you that.
The input side of these things is still so hard.
Like what you put into it is so hard like what you actually get everything format it nicely there’s tools that can help but it’s just.
Rob:
[45:04] Yeah which is why this specific use case driven models like hang out fraud or Saints or something else that’s why there is still applicable in those places because the data is already clean.
Single-use case kind of thing I try to make it work outside of the box.
Josh:
[45:22] Yeah there specific outcomes there.
Cory:
[45:25] Yeah it’s just I think it’s I think you’re going to see where my personal opinion is I think the.
The strongest place you’ll see machine learning and artificial intelligence have an impact is when software.
Organizations that already have a focused on some sort of data analytics sort of bent.
When they figure out a way to use those underlying out rooms without any real input from the user.
But just like kind of bake it in under the covers in their software I think that’s the first viable place we’ll see it like we saw.
Spot me to bunch of an ounce without their baking in a bunch of machine learning into their.
Like there’s threat match me out there there Fred detection software from a Enterprise security protective like that makes sense but I just some random company just random ass use case trying to make machine learning they are at work feels like it’s still a long.
Rob:
[46:16] Was like I was just looking at the Sky Conference in Seattle.
On 17th and the speaker’s the feature speakers for that a particular conference Smith all its Microsoft at Amazon it’s Uber it’s Google.
Yeah it’s strangely Pinterest if I was.
She Joyce but it’s it’s it’s all the people we would think they’re in different ways.
Cory:
[46:48] Once I mean we talked we talked with Alan Gates the he’s one of the founders of hortonworks early days Big Data dude and he was like yeah that’s all the problem we had we had no idea if anybody else is having this problem.
Josh:
[47:01] Submit my favorite part of the conversation I had with my former neighbor there was he is teaching this class on it and,
he said the most fun thing is you got all these younger people coming in and they’re like this is amazing thing that we’ve discovered in this all machine learning or whatever,
is that yeah the mathematics that are the back end of that it’s just applying python to 400 year old mathematics so you know you don’t have anything new.
Master heaters and access to more data that can actually give you an output so.
Cory:
[47:32] That is 100% true.
Josh:
[47:33] Go you.
Cory:
[47:33] He was a physics dude back around he’s like you kind of came from the HBC land in the you know the 80s do it like the masses at new.
What gets old math it’s a scale that’s the only difference.
Josh:
[47:52] You know what I will.
Melissa:
[47:53] Stories about everything though.
Josh:
[47:55] Yeah I will be impressed with AI and machine learning when I can go to Amazon and say to Amazon Amazon what does my wife really want for her birthday.
Cory:
[48:08] I don’t think you don’t like me answer.
Melissa:
[48:12] A pool boy.
Josh:
[48:17] What stuff on her wish list but that’s not always what she actually wants for her birthday that’s just something that you would like to have at some point.
Cory:
[48:26] I got a book for it’s called the five love languages.
Josh:
[48:31] I got it and they actually got it wrong there is a snake’s full of language and it is whiskey.
Melissa:
[48:37] Language or just a Mommy’s little helper.
Cory:
[48:45] Yeah whiskey / wine that’s awesome.
So a eyes are real we’ve established that that’s good vdi probably going to happen this year I’m pretty excited about it.
Thank God thank God thank God we finally have flash.
Josh:
[49:03] Yeah we’re going to skip it straight to the cloud it’s what’s going to happen.
Melissa:
[49:08] The clouds dead isn’t it we can just skip to the next thing right we already swinging somewhere else right.
Cory:
[49:20] I thought it was server I thought that was.
Pete:
[49:22] Yeah that’s the thing as well.
Josh:
[49:25] It’s it’s the internet of trash I mean things.
Melissa:
[49:28] Serverless is like Santa Claus man they don’t understand.
Cory:
[49:38] I mean it’s it’s it’s honestly it’s like the phoenix like the cloud vendors were like you know what.
When we told her about it we were going to we were going to manage their the servers for them and the cloud just felt like it’s not even real it’s just up there just loading that’s really we don’t have any servers.
Pete:
[49:57] Most marketing marketing services.
What does a Klonopin say it right now it’s on my desk that’s the client.
Cory:
[50:10] It’s Just Wireless don’t you mess with me.
Pete:
[50:12] Yeah it’s little black bumps on my chest right now this consuming power and puts into the network other than that.
Rob:
[50:15] What I really want is a service Client List Network and then I’m salad totally.
There’s no servers no class really nothing it says traffic.
Cory:
[50:27] If you Google if you Google serverless Computing but like all of the new stories that kind of every single one of them has a picture of a server in it.
Josh:
[50:40] Well we really jump the shark when we started talking about no Ops though because there’s only there is only one way to have no ups and they only way to have no options to have no consumers.
Rob:
[50:50] Or or no server.
Cory:
[50:51] Yeah what’s think.
Melissa:
[50:52] Jack know anything no business no.
Josh:
[50:58] If you don’t if you don’t have any consumers you won’t buy any hardware you won’t develop any software that you don’t have any need for any Ops.
Cory:
[51:05] So you don’t need a 12 Factor apps it was just great or 7.
Pete:
[51:07] 7 is again.
Cory:
[51:11] Yeah rap here we go but you know what it’ll be much less energy consumption so that’s good.
Melissa:
[51:18] Yeah your ring company.
Cory:
[51:20] We’re grains were also bro but it’s fine.
Melissa:
[51:22] There’s whiskey it’s fine.
Cory:
[51:28] I love it so what else is Big this year not so serverless that’s great.
Melissa:
[51:34] Machine learning built-in obviously.
Josh:
[51:38] I’m looking forward to the the death of Doc.
Cory:
[51:42] You think he’s going to go.
Josh:
[51:43] A doctor’s gone still on it the doctors guy.
Pete:
[51:46] III.
Melissa:
[51:47] But I have to get rid of a t-shirt.
Kyle:
[51:52] I would like to look at.
Josh:
[51:53] Company is going to be gone but you know the whale somebody will buy it.
Melissa:
[51:58] Somebody’s going to by the way.
Pete:
[51:59] What is a penny to the DC many secret players are some of the some of the Intel.
Josh:
[52:06] Not I’m just I’m just convinced.
Cory:
[52:08] Kubernetes for the win.
Josh:
[52:11] DeSoto.
Melissa:
[52:12] You can’t live on Churchill owner.
Josh:
[52:14] That’s right so my buddy Chris short actually put up blog post out earlier today and he outlined so I think it’s Chris short,
Napa. We’re so short. Net but anyway he he outlined some of his reasonings as well which I was excited to see that they’ve been taking a boatload of money they’re not making a lot of money it had,
challenges with how they continue to grow the business,
I have removed from a product standpoint and they went all-in saying you swarm is a future and then less than 6 months later that I can but we’re also going to swarm,
those first class citizens I’m like you know I wish you well cuz that’s going to be expensive.
And then here’s a i and here and here.
NN hears hears our partner ecosystem and and we’re going to compete with it but also you know.
You try not to Foster that group you know I just I don’t think doctor as a stand-alone is going to have the legs it needs to to hit escape velocity if you will and be able to actually.
Pete:
[53:18] I hear what you saying my fuel sync on this is that. Could still just have a lot of the industry behind an ecosystem is pretty much saying that you definitely.
Will 6:30 or decimal you guys safe to 2018 probably need two sides it’s going to file this year thank you sing.
Josh:
[53:42] Not I don’t I don’t I don’t think it’s going to fail I just don’t think doctor is going to persist as a company I think it is going to be acquired yeah.
Yeah I think I think what they’ve done is really important for for the industry because they’ve they’ve created something that’s appealing to Enterprises to bring in and it’s not,
poo poo to your development groups are always wanting to build it themselves or anything to look at in the say I have and I will use that that’s fine it’ll work.
But it’s not something that I think is going to easily be monetize long-term without having it be,
something that’s part of a bigger picture so you look at something like Microsoft where you can incorporate those capabilities into your the Microsoft ecosystem that’s a big value-add that would be worth a couple of billion dollars,
for them.
Pete:
[54:36] Native container supposed to be.
Josh:
[54:41] Dave they run doctor engine natively in Endeavor Tucson 2016.
And then of course I got Nano server and and the variety of options so I don’t know that and I just think it’s there’s no need for dr. to persista to stand alone company at the stage either.
Rob:
[54:59] Riverside number two or three black post it yet just just today that we’re coming on that very topic that,
doctor was looking like it was either positioning itself or the engineers that work for them or positioning the technology to other company be choir but it’s ichnology to be open source before I got a choir so they can still go back in.
Josh:
[55:18] Look at you look at all their LinkedIn profile updates to figure out what’s going on.
Pete:
[55:26] Well let’s just have some inspections I need to talk to we’re going to be at what age you think you be in the running.
Josh:
[55:31] Oh Microsoft a hundred percent.
Pete:
[55:33] You think what about them.
Cory:
[55:36] IBS.
Josh:
[55:37] No not IBM I think I think Oracle Oracle yeah they’re they’re they’re good at taking something and make you not want to use it again.
Pete:
[55:46] Yeah I’ll rickel web products guide to die.
Melissa:
[55:53] There are a lot of those there’s there’s there’s HP.
Josh:
[56:06] I think I think the way that we should really look at it is in order for Doctor to maintain or grow its value over time you would have to be acquired by a company that people,
are not adverse to or adverse to it working wet so you look at someone like Oracle people,
don’t claim her to Oracle right now in the space that when you’re when you’re thinking about Docker containers and an application development and answer.
Pete:
[56:40] Alright.
Cory:
[56:43] Big but you know man and I found your voice Chris short block it’s the third thing that comes up on a Google search for is Docker dead.
[56:54] Search engine optimization for a day.
Josh:
[56:59] That’s machine learning.
Cory:
[57:00] Yeah I no kidding but the one thing I will say those if you look at the.
The reasons why we’ve all kind of said it’s a dumpster fire couldn’t you basically say that about every.
Like Basics like Tech startup in this like either in the you know the M&L Oreo kind of space extraction space or even the biggest was like you could you can literally write this and write in hortonworks Cloudera,
yeah right it a bunch of them they’ve all been Darlings they’ve all taken on crap tons of money and VC money very few of them produce a profit I mean you think about.
Splunk is one of those where they they’ve been at it and have been growing 50% year-over-year their of a billion dollars in revenue and they’re still struggling to make a profit.
So you look at me and you look about that you know kind of the industry of making tangential kind of recommendations in their Tech that you’re like weight loss.
They all do it at some level I think it’s.
I think the the point that Peter made was they’ve actually created such community at this point that I don’t think it’s going anywhere I think you’re right that if your definition of dead is acquired,
I’ll buy it if it’s this thing’s not going to persist and it’s not going to continue to develop I disagree hundred percent.
Josh:
[58:13] Hi I do think it’ll persist and continue to develop post 2018 I do not think it will exist as an entity by the end of 2018.
[58:33] Oh yeah I talk about it everyday.
Melissa:
[58:35] There’s other people that do Edwin M Theory.
Red Hat turns red hat does a minute they’re actually pretty successful at it right.
Josh:
[58:46] Not up near my my company we could still do a lot of openstack work.
And we still have a lot of customers running it you know what I’d say about openstack that Peter really is that its use cases and its applications are continuing to be refined and narrow,
because the people who actually want to invest and do it I think you’re getting very targeted and specific about how they want to do it.
Pete:
[59:09] Okay.
Melissa:
[59:13] And it helps to have a company that doesn’t grab their VMware admins and say hey you’re going to run this openstack thing for us now.
Josh:
[59:22] BMW likes we have so where’s where’s the Professional Services for this.
Melissa:
[59:25] They live at Red Hat apparently.
Pete:
[59:30] I mean which would also say is a van wyk killer or was it ever seen.
Josh:
[59:35] No no.
Cory:
[59:36] No
Josh:
[59:36] It was always intended as an alternative.
Melissa:
[59:40] Anyone that adopted it to try to kill their BM where sprawl actually ended up spending more with VMware and failing at it because they didn’t understand what was really required to make openstack work.
That’s what I seen with the customers that I’ve seen that have done it specifically to kill VMware.
[1:00:19] I’m sure my fam where certified friends would kill me for saying so but.
Josh:
[1:00:23] Well it hasn’t.
It is it hasn’t always been easy right you know I was I was in on this in the two. X days in like this stuff was not easy back then like it is it is matured over and there’s a long tail on that on that comment right I’m is matured a lot.
I am delivering for providing availability for applications do do not have native availability or openstack applications really,
are are successful is where that infrastructure stability is not what is of Paramount importance what’s of more Paramount is that the understanding that the application has a certain level of availability of the part of it and that the infrastructure is there to serve the application,
a virtual environment is there to serve the VMS.
And I like that is that is what its existence is and I look more at an openstack environment as you how can we deliver the infrastructure in order for the applications to to to get out the way that they need to in and be managed and operated the way that they need to,
yeah same with that container orchestrators right there they’re much more applique application focused for the value that they’re providing.
Pete:
[1:01:33] There you go.
Melissa:
[1:01:35] And in true Josh Atwell fashion.
Josh:
[1:01:39] I just killed the conversation.
The other part of that though is he has been hit or miss with what they deliver for cell service right you look a v-plow director are I’ll go back to VMware lab manager and then you get the vcloud director when you get the vrealize automation,
evolution of trying to deliver self-service portals and hashtag private cloud.
Cory:
[1:02:09] Yeah but who had I mean honestly like I look at all the Emma no sex and it’s like okay that’s fine if it’s for general purpose but will I see a bunch of people start on the Steelers like the Emma no sex that actually serve is this critical use cases.
Like in the Big Data space like there’s all these you know like which which one of these m&o Stacks do you use to run big cluster Computing systems.
Josh:
[1:02:32] Titleist.
Cory:
[1:02:36] Because nobody knows that’s the point there’s not one to rule them all like there’s stairs.
Josh:
[1:02:42] But there’s somebody out there convinced that they’re going to make a billion dollars by creating it.
Cory:
[1:02:47] There’s a bunch of them none of them I mean each of them come out with something that’s kind of interesting most of them end up just going to using.
Some technologies of Asus like there’s one that I think it’s cool cool blue data but it’s all based on Docker so if doctor goes pear-shaped then maybe they’re in trouble I don’t know there’s.
There’s others that are trying to abstract the resources in a different way than virtualization does for the purpose of cluster computing.
I don’t anyways I just like the end up where I think the end of the world in general it’s did it still dominant by being where wholeheartedly I think it’s.
I think it’s going to suck outside outside of VMware for a while and hopefully a few of the players we get real focused on.
Josh:
[1:03:28] Well yeah I think I think we we keep running into the same pattern right and we never learn from history but when you look at how new.
Seemingly transformative Technologies,
come to lie and they show up if it becomes this all this is going to be the most amazing thing is going to change the way we do everything and it’s going to do this it’s going to that and it promises to solve all these major problems that we have with what is the status quo today,
either a.
Sort a lot of that stuff out and on the other side of this you get a technology that really becomes the Stars to come in to do status quo or be they run into a tree and it’s just smash is all over the place and their Vegas find something else to do.
Melissa:
[1:04:41] Maybe this is the whiskey talking but I’ve got to say that the first war is usually at the end of your own nose.
Oh my god I’ve got to change something with myself in order to adopt this new transformative technology screw that.
Josh:
[1:05:02] Best that certainly super prevalent in the Enterprise space you know people are very hesitant but at the same time if for instance you look at put running your containers in production yes you absolutely can run per day,
containers in production you absolutely can run your applications in containers and it and it can deliver all those things that that it promises to do.
But you do have this opportunity to run into challenges that there’s a lot of companies out there trying to solve around multi-tenancy and security and ensuring you have me what what to do with data persistence and how do you Federated environments in the sure you’re providing consistent experience across geographies across,
clouds if that’s that’s hard stuff that somebody’s going to need to solve an order for people to make that the the new status quo.
Cory:
[1:05:53] Word hey I want to do something real quick. I think let’s shift gears we do this thing on our I guess we just do rapid fire questions with all of our guests Witcher.
She’s really pretty fun and so what I want is I’m going to ask Emma.
Pete:
[1:06:27] Okay 2050.
Cory:
[1:06:28] Tell me something okay I think you’re all wrong it’s already online that’s fine.
It’s alright it’s orange and has tiny hands it’s delightful it’s big what is the last what is the last book you read or what’s your favorite book you read in 2017.
Melissa:
[1:06:50] Oh God I’m going to turn your podcast explicit.
Cory:
[1:06:58] That’s not the subtle art of not giving up.
Melissa:
[1:06:59] Yes I Didn’t Know audio and it was the most awesome experience ever the guy that reads that book is just out of my God and it made me so happy.
Cory:
[1:07:14] You only have so many apps to give kid alright Josh what about you.
Melissa:
[1:07:16] Wisely.
Josh:
[1:07:18] I’ll go I’ll go with us that’s the one of most recent ones and yeah that one that was kind of stuck with me it’s been pretty good that’s it was good.
Cory:
[1:07:26] What is Artemis.
Josh:
[1:07:29] The Artemis no that’s from the same Andy Weir who did the Martian.
Cory:
[1:07:33] Oh that’s right that’s right that’s right what about you.
Pete:
[1:07:36] I think for me the Mason Sunny baqarah last year was a typical time to win lessons from the Premier League which was a book about it,
get high to use the techniques they use in that lead to win in life.
Eddie’s by secret football associate professional footballer.
Josh:
[1:08:00] What’s was one of those was one of those Secrets passed the ball and blame the coach.
Cory:
[1:08:06] It was flop it was lay down and flop that’s what it was.
Melissa:
[1:08:09] All down and sell it.
Josh:
[1:08:12] Exactly.
Cory:
[1:08:14] What’s the order what genre of music are you currently rocking.
Pete:
[1:08:19] I want to get into a c’s electro-pop.
Cory:
[1:08:26] Alright sweet Josh.
Josh:
[1:08:28] So I have been doing a lot of Christmas music but we have when New Year’s transition to basically club music so a lot of Flo Rida whoever that is.
Kesha came up recently and yeah and I’m in a lot of Imagine Dragons so I don’t know.
Cory:
[1:08:48] I feel it’s funny how embarrassed you were by saying that out loud it was awesome.
Josh:
[1:08:52] I’ve had no problems with Kesha or Imagine Dragons I just don’t really know who Flo Rida is but my kids love that my house.
Cory:
[1:09:03] Yeah I’m going to judge you it’s fine Melissa what are you Ron.
Melissa:
[1:09:06] Oh God our house is full of TryHardNinja right now and Five Nights at Freddy’s / hello neighbor music.
Josh:
[1:09:17] Are all of it.
Cory:
[1:09:19] Yeah I don’t know what any of that is.
Pete:
[1:09:20] What’s the mail said that he’s already had no clue.
Rob:
[1:09:24] I have no idea.
Josh:
[1:09:26] I’ll have to talk to Spotify.
Rob:
[1:09:29] I’m officially old.
Kyle:
[1:09:31] As the resident Millennial I understood all of that so yeah.
Melissa:
[1:09:34] So I’m the cool one just for the record.
Rob:
[1:09:40] And I be old one just so we’re clear.
Pete:
[1:09:53] North Birmingham.
Cory:
[1:09:59] Alright what’s your Melissa what is your favorite piece of utterly useless Tech.
Melissa:
[1:10:07] Oh my God favorite piece of utterly useless I’m going to say my my Amazon look.
Cory:
[1:10:16] You do not have one of those.
[1:10:19] Oh no.
Melissa:
[1:10:21] Call me and I had to give it a try and I gave it a review on a on a former show but is utterly useless.
Cory:
[1:10:29] Soaking.
Melissa:
[1:10:30] It’s me.
Cory:
[1:10:32] Sucking that thing drop in on you and your closet like while you’re dressing cuz that’s little bit creepy I think you know the drop-in feature.
Melissa:
[1:10:37] Probably could,
if I had it in my actual bedroom so I’m paranoid I keep it in the guest bedroom and if I want to do something with it I walk down fully dressed and do my thing and then come out of there I don’t.
I don’t keep it in my actual closet or in my actual bedroom it is in the guest bedroom.
Cory:
[1:11:00] Alright good okay P what’s your favorite piece of useless Tech.
Pete:
[1:11:05] Can I go for something that I don’t actually have but one of my colleagues does yeah and that Tesla.
[1:11:15] I’ll give you an example the other day to win their wasn’t working and the reason it wasn’t working so she needs to wait for firmware updates for the wing mirror.
Melissa:
[1:11:25] Oh that’s sad.
Cory:
[1:11:27] Josh showed up to bro.
Pete:
[1:11:28] It’s just.
Josh:
[1:11:31] Yeah you know I would like to pretend that I don’t have any useless Tech but I’m looking around my office and I’m thinking well we got that,
alarm clock that’s kind of useless but I know it’s not my favorite soon so every Christmas I actually implemented like the Philips Hue lighting.
A lot of different places and can integrated it with near my Amazon Echo that that might be at because I’m hitting this realization that while it’s cool and it has some practicality,
it also causes some challenges.
Cory:
[1:12:04] Have you have you heard the soap Rob introduced us to the show called The expanse if you heard of that one.
Anyways she described it as basically like Game of Thrones and space which was later determined is basically the same thing as Star Wars but it any rate it’s integrated with you so you like the Syfy app you can change the color of your lights.
As you’re watching the show somehow it seems.
Pete:
[1:12:29] Is it cool expensive stuff or is it not.
Josh:
[1:12:34] And it sounds quite useless.
Cory:
[1:12:35] Yeah it’s ugly ass was it’s not a huge I think the problem with the Hughes Kyle and I had this conversation earlier today cuz I just dropped about $500 on home automation crap today for Memphis Light as well I didn’t go to you though cuz I don’t.
There’s that you have to have their Hub right.
So I end up going to the Sylvania lights that actually work with the wink Hub at any rate we had this conversation that the the shoe is it can be a little pricey.
Josh:
[1:13:03] I bought everything on clearance or like super.
Rob:
[1:13:06] Yeah same here I am and I’ve got you at home and I’ll tell you they’re awesome it’s also the same time.
Utterly useless when you’re not away when you want to turn lights on and off randomly around though some weird schedule so it’s not dispenser timer.
Anything that’s when the bridge in your house will drop off your WiFi at all this magic.
Whites are on the whole time or Draw whole time you have no idea.
Josh:
[1:13:31] So I realized after I installed all this stuff that I had injected a ticket fault domain into my environment because it used to be the only way I’d have problems with the lights.
In Mass was if the power went out now it could be the shoe Bridge or it could be the Wi-Fi network could cause me to not be able to turn on the Flippin lights like that’s bothersome.
Cory:
[1:13:53] Yeah Kyle had this problem where he he has one of those smart locks and the batteries went out and he was house and couldn’t get back in cuz you never freaking key.
Kyle:
[1:14:02] In my car in my garage it was it was wonderful.
Cory:
[1:14:06] Alright if I was gone.
Kyle:
[1:14:09] I know I just had to reset all of the light bulbs in my house the other day cuz the Hub restarted so I spent my afternoon going through manually unscrewing free screwing and and and resetting all of the lightbulb stinks.
Josh:
[1:14:24] Man that’s really screwed up.
Kyle:
[1:14:28] Where’s the Dodgers.
Melissa:
[1:14:40] Everybody’s tired of hearing about my big money to it right now actually I’ll change it up so so so it was my house now it’s.
Coming back from the vacation we took over Christmas to Disney and Universal Florida.
Cory:
[1:14:57] I took all of your money.
Melissa:
[1:14:58] They took all of my money with gladness.
Cory:
[1:15:03] Which they leave you with a smile Joshua.
Josh:
[1:15:09] Something else that you enjoy and leaves you with a smile but takes all your money nevermind.
Melissa:
[1:15:14] Man.
Josh:
[1:15:18] Amazon my Amazon account my Amazon account is my money pit right now because it’s new.
Cory:
[1:15:24] Amen brother.
Josh:
[1:15:25] Every everything is coming from Amazon. I just had surgery on my foot and I about a month ago and I’ll be laying in bed and let you know what sounds really great right now some Cheez-Its Doritos and some Coke Zero so I get on Amazon Prime now,
and I’ve got those things so.
Cory:
[1:15:42] That’s awesome what are you spending all your money on her now.
Pete:
[1:15:45] Well I mean I’ll keep him as well because I’ve moved her to recently but I suppose the real man if it’s at the moment it’s Her Majesty’s revenue and customs.
Cory:
[1:16:07] We should go to the the Tower of London to go see some the jewels you’re paying for the be fun are you where are you going soon that is interesting Josh any cool trips.
Josh:
[1:16:19] No no that’s not true.
Cory:
[1:16:22] Come on Delta diamonds give us a.
Josh:
[1:16:24] Yeah I’m heading out to California that’s not a cool trip I’ll be going to Boulder Colorado at the end of the month that should be cool.
Cory:
[1:16:32] Great times big boulder.
Josh:
[1:16:34] I do too.
Cory:
[1:16:36] Pete when they were cool.
Pete:
[1:16:38] Well and listeners will no doubt be,
I changed my concentrate to Slovakia for the projects and went inside to anybody cuz I told about that she every time I’m sure I’ll be up there probably heading out to Germany again in the summer for a week is slip swimming in Lake Constance,
looks to do with the family.
Cory:
[1:17:01] That’s nice Melissa how about you.
Melissa:
[1:17:03] I’m headed to Austin Texas next week which I think is pretty interesting I couldn’t like their local scene there but I’ll be doing that.
Cory:
[1:17:12] Kyle and I have a strong recommendation for you to get a rental car but you have to have an office anyway drive 85 miles per hour cuz that’s the speed limit out to Lockhart Texas.
Go and go to Black’s Barbecue.
Josh:
[1:17:26] I’ve heard this.
Cory:
[1:17:27] Order at least have one beef product I don’t care if it’s the ribs of the brisket personally I’d go with the beef ribeye though it’s about 20 bucks per rib.
Rob:
[1:17:37] I’m going to go ahead and second the beef rib recommendation at that place.
Pete:
[1:17:40] Is this one of these places that was on Monday.
One of these places.
Cory:
[1:17:44] This is just this is a traditional Texas barbecue and an incident like in all of.
Texas is a big place Alabama’s bigger than England,
Texas is like seven times the size of either one of them Central Texas Best BBQ in the entire State arguably maybe the best barbecue in the world.
That Lockhart has three great barbecue restaurants that give you Kretz Market Smitty’s Market in blacks and.
Of them I don’t know if there’s I’d say one it’s the best of the three but I’ve most recently been the blacks and it was out of this world like just show.
Josh:
[1:18:23] I am so hungry already thanks for that.
Melissa:
[1:18:25] Saraab as someone who also comes from a city who has a barbecue named after it do you also endorse this.
Rob:
[1:18:32] Diving black.
Melissa:
[1:18:33] Alright yeah I was in before honestly because the barbecue sucks in the Northwest but I’m in.
Pete:
[1:18:44] This is going to make me sound like a real uneducated far is it from Colorado.
Cory:
[1:18:50] It’s a it’s a 2-hour point two and a half West Texas which is basically near absolutely nothing.
Josh:
[1:19:02] It’s basically Mars.
Cory:
[1:19:04] Yeah it is it’s actually very similar yeah alright so let’s talk about what show.
I can be obviously cables not the only thing anymore what show are you binging on right now p.
Pete:
[1:19:18] Well if it’s anything to go by 8 is Sons of Anarchy on Netflix.
Cory:
[1:19:26] Non-american to give you into America subculture.
Pete:
[1:19:36] Already bitching his grace I’m just thought I’d say leave behind so I’m standing on series season 2.
Cory:
[1:19:45] Axle just a require everyone who drives a Harley pretends they’re in that show Even though.
[1:19:54] Josh about you what are you watching these days.
Josh:
[1:19:56] You actually caught me in a really awkward position I I just finished everything that I was watching I have been watching mr. robot getting caught up there had been watching a Black Adder.
Cuz they’re Ray told me that I needed to yeah it’s really good it’s really good.
But at but I’ll say that the one I’ve watched most recently that I recommend is The Marvelous mrs. maisel on Amazon Prime it is hilarious.
Super funny guide some is about a woman whose husband decides he’s going to leave her in the 1950s,
and in doing so you know she’s obviously kind of distraught she decided she’s going to take up a career in stand-up comedy.
Cory:
[1:20:42] Wow alright.
Josh:
[1:20:43] Play I’m not I’m not going to give away like the the plot points that gets her to that point but it’s fantastic and interesting Lee enough my wife’s maiden name was maisel so it that’s what initially attracted us to watch the first the pilot absolutely hilarious.
Cory:
[1:20:59] Alright good good good one.
Pete:
[1:21:00] It’s not too late to make one sorry.
[1:21:05] Number to the station if I could if there’s one show you guys need to watch this year can I recommend Deutschland 83 he’s not saying it’s it’s,
East in German with English subtitles in it,
Army person who gets turned into a spine West Germany it’s absolutely brilliant.
Josh:
[1:21:27] So those English subtitles are those like UK English or American English subtitles.
Pete:
[1:21:33] I’m sure you could type.
Cory:
[1:21:36] In the words of the great Winston Churchill we are a common people separated by a Common Language.
Pete:
[1:21:42] I’ll show you could let the long Goldeen.
Cory:
[1:21:45] Alright Melissa what are you on right now what’s your show.
Melissa:
[1:21:49] So other than college football what I’ve been watching is this next Netflix series called dark and I’m on episode 7 of that but it kind of messes with time and our perception of it,
has this really cool thing it’s set in Germany but it’s in English.
Obviously there’s probably a German version because the dub is is nice but not quite matching with the actors with really really good so far kind of weird.
Cory:
[1:22:22] Alright so because we are the big data beard we like to probar guess if you have a bearded Idol now I’ll say this extra points if you choose Kyle cuz he is growing a majestic beard these days,
tell Melissa who is your your bearded out of your favorite bearded person from history living or dead.
Josh:
[1:22:43] It better be me Melissa.
Melissa:
[1:22:50] Well let you know shout out to my guy from Illinois Lincoln you know I’m kind of got to do that but.
Also you know I found a big fan of the now and I have to say Corey Josh you know I love you guys.
Cory:
[1:23:09] Why the pathway to Pander to the audience I like it that’s good.
Josh:
[1:23:12] I can tell that your Amazon look is really changed you already.
Cory:
[1:23:20] Obviously you are a fan of your own beard but.
Josh:
[1:23:22] Yeah it might might my beard just is to make my face look less fat so it’s not really glorious good color that I think I’d have to say.
And I have to check to see if he still has the beer but Colin McNamara has has typically had like the best beard,
I’ve always been a big fan of his his beard.
Cory:
[1:23:46] Sweet Peet now that you are beards a thing in England still no they haven’t caught on.
Pete:
[1:23:49] Yeah yeah we just caught a few yeah I mean you never saw that many blacks with beds so that 10 10 15 years ago Fulton today at right now.
Cory:
[1:24:03] Strong we approve.
Pete:
[1:24:05] So I asked the question to answer that when you give Paris can I go for the what’s the CIA guy in Homeland.
Kyle:
[1:24:13] Oh saw.
Pete:
[1:24:14] Soul yes.
Kyle:
[1:24:16] Yeah yeah that’s the same actor of Inigo Montoya yeah.
Cory:
[1:24:25] Well played Robert you have you shaved or you you rock in the holiday beard right now.
Rob:
[1:24:29] No it’s a it’s it’s back to its genome about a weekend gross.
Cory:
[1:24:34] What you just grow a beard already.
[1:24:40] It’s just like it’s just a point like honestly I thought about making it a requirement but we just try to shame him into it and that hasn’t work so we’ll see we’ll figure out some way.
Melissa:
[1:24:52] Kyle stand strong.
Cory:
[1:24:54] Sounds good Rob about.
Josh said that the beard makes your face look not fat like that’s a great thing to me.
Rob:
[1:25:03] Be there if you can’t do that to my face it would just make it to my look better.
Melissa:
[1:25:08] John know not to grow a beard.
Cory:
[1:25:11] Challenge.
Melissa:
[1:25:15] Not a challenge.
[1:25:20] Peter’s got a beard too though.
Cory:
[1:25:22] It Ain’t So he said he’s rocking a beer these days that’s good everybody’s doing it actually I got to I got to ask this really uncomfortable question about a co-worker went after the merger happened this dude that I started working with and I’ll name names to protect the.
The guilty and predict.
Melissa:
[1:25:37] Ridiculous.
Cory:
[1:25:38] He asked me out on LinkedIn.
Giant beard and I just had to ask are you are you a hipster or you just one of those conservative Southerners that’s Rockin the Beards these days.
Josh:
[1:25:52] Oh
Melissa:
[1:25:53] Lord bless his soul.
Cory:
[1:25:59] And I was kind of accounts I was totally struck.
Rob:
[1:26:02] You’re in a box.
Cory:
[1:26:03] I was like wow like if that if that’s the serial like the binary answer.
Josh:
[1:26:08] That’s why you just that’s where you just turned to him like no I’m clearly a man.
Cory:
[1:26:15] I told him a little bit of both I guess I don’t know I’m somewhere in the middle like I can I make my own beef Tallow but I do know have I like.
Rob:
[1:26:26] She just replied lumberjack.
Melissa:
[1:26:29] I defy convention.
Rob:
[1:26:32] I thought either I’m a lumber.
Cory:
[1:26:34] Although I will say this,
and I’ll get it I was at I was at my house at my church the other day on the last Sunday and I was looking around and Mandy might be right like,
every dude in their head up pretty strong.
Alright well this is fun where what’s the best place to find speaking detector you guys all podcast blog in there on the Tweeter how do we find you bro.
Pete:
[1:27:02] I’m at Pizza small vinyl the switches or you can go to speaking and Tech. Come for any of us and you find this man.
Cory:
[1:27:12] Alright to do sponsored by anyone in particular.
Pete:
[1:27:17] That what you find.
Melissa:
[1:27:18] No we are free and independent and at speaking in tech on Twitter.
Pete:
[1:27:25] Sorry I forgot I left him for policy would be required to.
Josh:
[1:27:32] Well that’s why I never got my blog sponsored because then I have felt obligated to produce something valuable.
Cory:
[1:27:37] Yeah don’t do that we’re not sponsored watching so that we are sponsored but my sponsor. I mean somebody sent us some schwag which is pretty great.
So if it works or not we’re going to the ski trip this is fun so we’re going to the ski trip to Tahoe as I will send you guys and gals before we were headed out we’re going to do some skiing and where to do some interviews with some of the make the VP of analytics customer experience the CIO from a couple of different mountains,
there’s some fun stuff and so I was talking about that and then I got this email from a dude within Dell he was like hey.
So if you know this but like we have there’s a guy within Dell who has his own company that is right up your alley you should connect with him.
Was okay when it was on in and apparently his product was on Shark Tank and I got funded I’ll know the full details and looked it up yet but it’s called beardski.
And it’s a face it’s a face warmer like a face mask that covers and they’ve been in it sucks. Beer.
You sent me isn’t me a variety pack I’ve got like 8 of these beardski so for those of you who don’t have beards will be providing it’s a great way to have a beard like on the mountain we’re going to give them away as gifts to the guys and gals that we interview as far as it comes up their border Lee Rockin R beardski.
Pete:
[1:28:52] If you want this isn’t it brilliant.
Cory:
[1:28:58] It’s it’s.
Josh:
[1:28:59] Somewhere out there though there’s a shark that just got left over.
Melissa:
[1:29:04] Oh my.
Cory:
[1:29:07] So so that end we are supporting the O’Reilly conferences focus on the good obviously we’re a little bit more kind of pointed we going to stay really focused on Big Data.
Got to the trends towards mlna on all the stuff I OT but.
It Anyways we’re big supporters of Milo Riley conference Richard giving away passes to every single strata data.
Strata AI conference in strata open source conference this year,
I saw a few weeks before each of the episode or before each of those conferences auction tune in and participate in alola of a raffle of sorts to get a passes for one of those,
pretty fun shows this is been fun speaking in check and picked it up here podcast came together for a little predictions on talk about 2017 how.
Thought it was what’s going to suck in 2018.
Melissa:
[1:29:57] Everything everything.
Cory:
[1:30:04] Oh yeah you really missed opportunity not to do this.
Pete:
[1:30:14] I was actually as I was actually in I was in bed when I got a cold.
Cory:
[1:30:29] That’s too bad well if I told you that it’s it’s so we started the show around 3 p.m. and I had already been in bed all so I’ll be disappointed I guess herschel’s this is fun I enjoyed it.
Josh:
[1:30:42] Thank you much.
Melissa:
[1:30:42] Thanks.